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13 May 2009 @ 09:55 am
It's probably more complicated  
- to echo [info]oursin's line. I'm glad Kathryn Hughes has written this article in response to Elaine Showalter, because when I first saw Showalter's theory on the absence of great 19th-cetury american women novelists, I was convinced things weren't as simple as that. Basically Showalter asked why no American Brontes or Eliots and concluded that it had to do with British women having more servants and less housework to do:

"While English women novelists, even those as poor as the Brontës, had servants, American women were expected to clean, cook and sew; even in the south, white women in slave-holding families were trained in domestic arts."

As Hughes points out, it's really misleading to suppose British middle-class women like the Brontes were sitting on their hands all day just because they kept the odd maid (as did their US equivalents, anyway). In fact "the mistress of the middle-class household was most likely to be cooking and cleaning alongside her servants. In the days before vacuum cleaners, washing machines and fridges, the daily battle against soot, bedbugs, candle grease and mouldy food was one that lasted pretty much all day and required every hand on deck.".

This, though, does leave the original question: where were the American Brontes? And there probably isn't one simple answer, but two possibilities do occur. First, there hadn't been much time to build up a tradition of women's writing in America (and what there was seems to have been poetry). The Brontes, Eliot, even Austen, did have both fellow women writers and precursors, maybe not many but enough to provide a bit of vital I-can-do-this encouragement.

The other thought is that since the likes of Austen, Eliot and the Brontes couldn't hope to get paid a lot for their work, however much they might have liked to, they could at least write more or less what they wanted. Austen in particular got peanuts. There were 19th-century American women novelists; Stowe and Alcott come to mind, but they were writing neither for themselves nor for posterity. Stowe was writing for a cause, so aiming for maximum sales and publicity. And Alcott. like her heroine Jo, was writing for money, so had to do the same. I don't know what the relative markets were like at that time (other than that the US wouldn't recognise foreign copyright). Was it the case that a writer, even a woman writer, stood a better chance of actually making a living by writing in America? If that were so, it might at least partly explain writers aiming at a market that may simply have been less available in the UK. I guess the likes of Mrs Radcliff made more in the UK than the Austens and Brontes, but AFAIK, even she wasn't actually financially dependent on writing. Anthony Trollope's mum did make a living with her pen, but she was a travel writer, I think?

Interesting.
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 Communicator[info]communicator on May 13th, 2009 09:34 am (UTC)
I think it is intersting, and often when I read 'forgotten' female writers of the past, the main things that strike me are that they were writing fast, and writing to be as commercial as possible. And there's no denying that their work suffered as a result, but who can blame them for the decision they made?
Wandering Hedgehog: Clio[info]oursin on May 13th, 2009 10:48 am (UTC)
Eliot I think eventually did quite well financially - not sure whether that was Lewes being very adept at negotiating terms. She was also a dab hand at churning butter! But I'm sure the Braddons and Mrs Henry Woods and Broughtons, Corellis and Ouidas were making far more dosh out of writing. As, presumably, did the 'Silly Novels by Lady Novelists - early C19th chicklit - derided by Eliot.

I remember posting about some early interview in which Showalter implied that British women writers were sitting around writing novels, freed from domestic responsibilities: there writes someone who has never looked into Diary of a Provincial Lady and seen the amount of time it took running a household even if you did have domestics. Not to mention people expecting one to run the church fete and so on.

Not the first instance I've seen of lit critic making massive social history fail, I must say.
Helen W.[info]wneleh on May 13th, 2009 11:32 am (UTC)
First off, I don't think that the whole barrel of monkeys that goes into being a woman with a family can be discounted for any of us, anywhere, ever. (I write this as a woman MIT PhD with kids. My world is not my male counterparts'.)

As for why America had no Brontes or Austens - I think the miracle is that humanity produces Brontes and Austens, not the particular nation and language they find themselves operating in.

une idee fixe[info]ideealisme on May 13th, 2009 12:31 pm (UTC)
"First off, I don't think that the whole barrel of monkeys that goes into being a woman with a family can be discounted for any of us, anywhere, ever. (I write this as a woman MIT PhD with kids. My world is not my male counterparts'.)"

I agree, and pray that some day it will be.
Sheenagh Pugh[info]sheenaghpugh on May 13th, 2009 12:41 pm (UTC)
Most of those early women novelists didn't have kids either (and would that Charlotte Bronte had never tried).
Honi Soit Qui Mal's Tight Pants: oop[info]executrix on May 13th, 2009 11:48 am (UTC)
Just look at Dale Spender's "Mothers of the Novel," which is about X number of what Spender considers good pre-Austen novels by British women--the question is whether you think of something as a literary achievement, or as a "silly novel by [a] lady novelist."
Of course, in the 18th and 19th century novels, like fanfic nowadays, were *usually* written by women so everyone tended to assume that merely by being a novel a written work had to suck.
une idee fixe[info]ideealisme on May 13th, 2009 12:33 pm (UTC)
If I recall correctly, Emily Bronte mentioned peeling potatoes in a diary entry.

I also wonder - if the original white emigrees to North America were Puritans, perhaps that tradition discouraged overactive use of the imagination?
Sheenagh Pugh[info]sheenaghpugh on May 13th, 2009 01:54 pm (UTC)
I think the early poet Anne Bradstreet was from that tradition, though.
une idee fixe[info]ideealisme on May 13th, 2009 02:23 pm (UTC)
Yeah, her name went through my mind as I was typing.
lady_schrapnell[info]lady_schrapnell on May 13th, 2009 02:00 pm (UTC)
It is interesting. It's also kind of tangentially interesting how quite a few of the female writers' financial situations were determined by males in their families too, isn't it? IIRC, even the other Transcendentalists thought Amos Bronson Alcott particularly bad at managing his financial affairs, which left left the family in a huge mess, and there were the two female poets in England who had to keep writing to keep their families out of debtor's prison because of their unbelievably feckless hubbies. (Blanking on the names - what it is to be menopausal!) Fanny Burney was quite successful financially too, in a providing necessary support kind of way, wasn't she? In later life, rather than while living at home with her father, I mean.

I wonder also how much Alcott is *automatically* excluded by Stowalter for having been most famous for her children's novels. Also, now I'm thinking of it, I wonder if there's any effect of a bit of a divide in the literary magazine style of publication between the US and UK at the time; in any extremely ill-informed kind of way, I'm wondering if it might have been more short pieces in the US (Alcott AND L.M. Montgomery being examples of writers who'd have started that way, and both wrote their heroines' experiences in that type of writing) and more serialization of novels (plus the poetry) in the UK. That ties in with your point about the fellow writers/precursors - and there's certainly a 20th century tradition of US women short-story writers...
Sheenagh Pugh[info]sheenaghpugh on May 13th, 2009 02:31 pm (UTC)
Yes, I was wondering whether Montgomoery, as a Canadian, would have been more in the US or UK mould.

I wonder also how much Alcott is *automatically* excluded by Stowalter for having been most famous for her children's novels.

Oh, ain't it always the (exasperating) way?
 
 

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